Candy Is A Liar: Farewell, My Friend

Monday, February 23, 2009

Farewell, My Friend

The going from a world we know

The going from a world we know
To one a wonder still
Is like the child's adversity
Whose vista is a hill,
Behind the hill is sorcery
And everything unknown,
But will the secret compensate
For climbing it alone?

by Emily Dickinson

Tia said:

I guess my timing is somewhat ironic.

I, too, will be leaving the Internet world behind. But, I am doing it to deal with real life.

I didn't want to be dramatic about it, but I blew that out of the water by deleting my blogs, I guess. Blogging just wasn't/isn't for me and Friday was quite an emotional day in my world and I just - reacted, I guess.

It's no secret there is a lot going on in my life and I realized that I've been hiding out from it by hanging out online all the time. I justified it by telling myself and anyone who would listen that job hunting is an online venture, but really, I didn't and don't need to spend entire days at the computer. I have to get up, brush off, and start doing what needs to be done in order to get my life and head in check.

I am not dropping off the face of the earth, but I am making sure that everything I do, or don't do, is a conscious decision. I am removing myself from distractions, time sucks, and things that have allowed me to avoid reality for the past couple of months.

I still have email and will check it and use it, so it's not like I'm running away. At least I don't think I am.

I will miss all of you, my wonderful fake friends who have helped me through a lot. But, it is now time for me to help myself. Past time, actually.

Lucky for me, with Candy’s blog ending (although I don't believe it for a second) is a distraction that has been eliminated without me having to do a thing.

I have to say though that I am glad she closed up shop. She showed a lot of who she is in doing so. It may seem hypocritical, given I just wiped out my blogs, but I never had her following or claimed expertise in anything or claimed I was helping anyone plus, the blogs are gone but I am not. Not entirely. And I am giving an explanation, and still have email and, well, it’s totally different. Right?!

Anyway, maybe now her minions will move on and start living their own lives without her influence. Not to mention the fact of her hate being removed from the Internet. Like others, I don't know how her homesteading involves other families, unless they moved to a compound. Yearning for Zion II, perhaps?

Two more things. One, I’m sad today that our area has lost Archbishop Timothy Dolan. He’s going to New York. Although not Catholic (duh), I hold a lot of respect for the man and his influence on the communities in and around Milwaukee has been nothing but positive. He’s a calm, reasonable, well spoken man who has done a lot.

http://www.jsonline.com/news/wisconsin/40067412.html

And, finally. HeathenFan is going with me. Surprise, surprise. Or, maybe not so much.

My fake friends, I thank you.

February 23, 2009 10:58 AM

Goodbye wishes:

butterflygirl said...

Tia, I hope everything works out for you! Take care and you will be missed!

Heathenfan, goodbye to you also. I appreciate all you have done for this site!

February 23, 2009 11:02 AM

Mrs. N. said...

Tia, I hope you find the peace and answers you are looking for.

February 23, 2009 11:02 AM

Mrs. N. said...

Thanks Heathenfan for all your work on this site.

Amanda #1 said...

It just ocurred to me today that Tia=HeathenFan. I'm slow like that.

I'll miss you, Tia, and wish you the best. You'll always be in my heethun Kathlick prayers.

February 23, 2009 11:05 AM

anymommy said...

Tia-
Some time off will do you a world of good. Ask me how I know (wink).
I will continue to pray for you.

February 23, 2009 11:07 AM

sweepingthehome said...

Tia - I am sorry to see you go. I read your blogs and enjoyed it (in fact, I was about to comment on something last week when something came up and I had to step away from the computer). And I have always enjoyed reading your comments here about the nutjobs. Good luck with everything.

February 23, 2009 11:07 AM

Milehimama said...

Tia,
We're still here for you if you need us!

How about you be the crazy aunt, and pop in every now and again to stir up the pot?

You're in my prayers.

February 23, 2009 11:08 AM

Grace Marie said...: Tia.
I will miss you! I am praying that events in your life settle down and that you find a job worthy of your talents. You were an integral part of the "gang" here and will be sorely missed. Drop a comment now and then and let us know how things are going.

Maggii said...

Tia! I'll miss you...please pop by my blog occasionally...I'd liek to keep in touch...Hope things work out for you one way or the other..I'm sure they will...

February 23, 2009 11:41 AM

Saved Sinner said...Tia/Heathen - I'm sorry to see you go.

--Also, I am able to hop on here for a bit off and on because I have been up since 4am --

WOW- And I thought I got up early at 6:30.

February 23, 2009 12:04 PM

Seraphima said...

Tia I will truly miss you. We may be very different but I have always enjoyed your company and converation.

Uh-oh wait just a cotton picking minute here!

Tia stops blogging and is leaving the internet world and Candy is "homesteading" and leaving the internet world. Tia *is* Candy! Wow - the irony!! ROFL

Tia you remain in my prayers, I hope to hear from you from time to time. psalm30_4@yahoo.com

February 23, 2009 12:06 PM

Suzanne said...

Tia, I will be praying for you and hoping that all goes well. Sounds like your making a good decision for your wellness.

February 23, 2009 12:36 PM

~M said...Awww.. Tia you will be missed.

synchroswimr said...: Tia/Heathen, you will be truly missed. You said you will still be on email, I hope to keep in touch.

I still have no idea who Greek is, if Greek is a regular commenter.

Stephanie said...: Tia: All the best to you, and thanks for being a mod here.

CatholicMom said...

Tia = HeathenFan

I had no idea.

Tia, I wish you the best.

If you need a sponsor for when you convert to Catholicism, I will be on the first plane to the midwest.

Shalom to you, my friend.

February 23, 2009 4:39 PM

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CatholicMom said...: I am first, of course.; February 23, 2009 7:38 PM
CatholicMom said...: I had tears in my eyes as I just read this farwell post.

An Old Irish Blessing
May the road rise up to meet you.
May the wind always be at your back.
May the sun shine warm upon your face,
and rains fall soft upon your fields.
And until we meet again,
May God hold you in the palm of His hand.; February 23, 2009 7:39 PM
Beckye said...: Tia,

I enjoyed your posts and blogs. I hope you will return.; February 23, 2009 7:49 PM
Seraphima said...: Amen, CM, amen.; February 23, 2009 7:59 PM
synchroswimr said...: We will miss you, Tia!; February 23, 2009 8:02 PM
highdesert said...: Tia, oh no, I'll miss you! It won't be the same without you here.
Take good care of yourself - you're a fine human being.; February 23, 2009 8:06 PM
highdesert said...: (sweeping, I don't know what will happen to your Mandy blog now. If you don't remove the blog, could you take my blog off the list now? Thanks. And I wish you had been around more often!); February 23, 2009 8:08 PM
patrice said...: Best of luck Tia. Hope you will drop by and check on the hens every once in while.; February 23, 2009 8:10 PM
Melissa said...: Tia - best wishes to you in your job search and with everything else. You will be missed very much.; February 23, 2009 8:43 PM
kritterc said...: I have Candy's recipe for Ants on a Log if anyone wants it. I sure wish I had copied down all of her nutritious recipes.; February 23, 2009 8:47 PM
Milehimama said...: But how do you make a peanut butter and honey sandwich?; February 23, 2009 9:16 PM
Larry and Deb said...: I am a long-time reader here, and an infrequent poster, but wanted to say goodbye to Tia. I hope that things work out for you in the best way possible. And just in case you wish to become a Baptist one day, I offer my whole-hearted support. ;)

--Deborah; February 23, 2009 9:21 PM
HappyHermit said...: This post has been removed by the author.; February 23, 2009 9:31 PM
Larry and Deb said...: Clare and Milehimama, you two are my all-time favorite blog commenters ever. Just to let you know. :); February 23, 2009 9:31 PM
Mrs Flam said...: Tia , May you be blessed and have beautifull journey's. I don't do "goodbye" because i know we will meet again.

Sweeipng , thanks for your goldfish comment.; February 23, 2009 9:41 PM
Debbie said...: I'll miss you Tia.; February 23, 2009 10:23 PM
Seraphima said...: Mrs. Flam, what other fish do you have in your tank?; February 23, 2009 10:23 PM
Mrs Flam said...: Chinese Algae Eater (suspect for being teritoarial bottom feeder) , Black widow tetra , Zebra Dannios a single CongoTetra , and a Glass fish , Unprodctive Gupppies.

We bought the chinese algae eater to replace the one that died when we moved here (the dead one was 6+ inches , the new one is barely 2 in)

Gigi and Cora were fine and happy till one day I found GiGi Torn to bits , then a few days later cora dissapeared completley , we euthanized a lone tiger barb we thought had lost its mind , we bought a new godlfish (perth was his name) and a soon found her , eye's torn off , and fins torn to shreds. Next we lost a few guppies , that alagae eater is always eating dead fish , everyone is docile but it ...; February 23, 2009 10:30 PM
Mrs Flam said...: oh we have also lost 2 Coolie Loaches and a couble of black widow tetras as well; February 23, 2009 10:32 PM
Seraphima said...: Chances are that your algae eater is the culprit. They like to eat fish slime and if they are big enough can suck holes right through a fish, so there's also what happened to your poor fishies eye. Goldfish are slow so the algae eater will catch them rather easily.

We had small algae eaters and they would suck our goldfish and then the poor things would get ick and I never did manage to treat it effectively.

Anyway, if you want to keep goldies, you should try a smaller tank without sucker fish.; February 23, 2009 10:44 PM
sweepingthehome said...: OK, one last farewell....I am really, really going to miss you, Tia!!!!!; February 23, 2009 11:08 PM
highdesert said...: I felt bad when I read that Candy was ending her blog just as she started a new venture.
I feel way worse now that we're losing Tia, both as herself and as a host (much to my surprise).

Maybe I'm using this place (and Candy's blog) for too much distraction too, if it bothers me this much. My other online community seems down in traffic too. I am just blue tonight! My husband doesn't get it.; February 23, 2009 11:16 PM
The Greek Chorus said...: Bwah ha ha ha!

I just found out E got banned from the Sean Hannity forums (after posting about Obama/Hitler).

He WAS taxpayerslavery_net, no idea who he is now!

Sorry. Just had to share.; February 23, 2009 11:17 PM
highdesert said...: (And Minute Man's blog is still there as of 5 minutes ago, but the comment option is gone.); February 23, 2009 11:18 PM
The Greek Chorus said...: No comments on his blog, and taxpayerslavery.net is defunct, apparently, as well.

How will he get the word out about tax payer slavery, which HE said was the way he helped the poor in our country?; February 23, 2009 11:22 PM
The Greek Chorus said...: What if Candy was right, and she got raptured and we're all left behind?; February 23, 2009 11:22 PM
highdesert said...: If they've moved to a new version of the back-to-the-land communes of the 60s-70s, it may turn out to be a challenge to work together with other families after the first bliss is over.

That Christian Homesteading site she linked to recommended having a salary at least for the first year while getting established. I hope they have some savings.

I think Candy sounds like a survivor though, and if this doesn't work she'll move on to something new.; February 23, 2009 11:33 PM
Larry and Deb said...: Not that anyone asked for it, but here's my take on things. I am convinced that this is all 100% pure, Candy-brand, attention-seeking garbage. My sister and I have been "watching" Candy for a couple years now. Things have really escalated for Candy, in terms of people becoming aware of her duplicitous nature, so it was pretty much inevitable for her to have to do this. My personal opinion is that she sought out a way to take the heat off her, while achieving maximum drama. This is, in her mind, a perfect ploy, which enables her to kill those two birds with one stone. I doubt that she has actually planned her way back into the blogosphere yet, but she will be back. I am sure of that. She will reshape some "event" in her life to enable a convenient re-entrance into the blogging world.

I think that, had Candy any mite of respect for her readers, she would have kept her blog up, and its "information" accessible. What purpose (apart from maximizing drama) did she serve by removing it? She could have left all of her recipes, over-complicated housekeeping strategies and incoherent, rabid ramblings up for the benefit of humankind and still never have blogged again. No, her removal of her blog shows how she feels about her readers; they are a means to an end (that end being an improvement in the way she feels about herself and her life)and thus not worthy of considerate treatment.

Probably what Candy would like right now is for this blog and its sisters to have nothing to talk about for long enough to die down and back off. I am sure we'll see a reincarnated Candy in due time, once she thinks the coast is clear. Or, whenever she gets internet access. LOL

--Deborah; February 24, 2009 4:38 AM
Deeny said...: You will be missed Tia. Prayers to you for a bright and happy future
Deana; February 24, 2009 5:42 AM
SIL Anne said...: Oh Tia, I do understand your departure, but I will truly miss you here. I often sat at my computer and applauded your uncanny insightfulness, not only about C & E but any topic you commented on. Your open honesty and willingness to "tell it like it is" was always so refreshing. May the future bring you peace and happiness.; February 24, 2009 6:00 AM
Keeping It Quiet said...: No, it proves Candy has been lying this whole time. She CLAIMED to love others enough to want to share the truth with them. She pulled an entire blog filled with her truth. If nothing else, she pulled her portion on how to receive eternal life. She pulled a free way to tell a lot of people about eternal life. Hmmm, yeah, that's loving. It just proves she cares only about Candy and doesn't give one iota about others.; February 24, 2009 6:35 AM
Keeping It Quiet said...: Oh, but we could all talk about the titilating, Candyesque post over at PP wife's blog on how to make iced tea. Put the cold brew tea bags in the water, wait, drink. Oh my.; February 24, 2009 6:35 AM
Keeping It Quiet said...: My head hurts. I read it 10 times and didn't realize what Tia meant when she said Heathen would be going with her. I was thinking "why would they leave together". Yeah, I have been up all night with a sick baby, I have an excuse. No really..

Tia, I am sad to see you go. I know we didn't post banter back and forth like you did with so many, but I enjoyed your posts and your wit. You will be missed. But I completely understand your reasons.; February 24, 2009 6:37 AM
*J* said...: Tia,
I really enjoyed your contribution here, and you will be sorely missed. I appreciated your ability to disagree without denigrating, and your willingness to defend your point of view without getting emotional (with maybe one drunken exception!). Thanks, too, for your contribution as Heathenfan. You did a great job keeping your identity as a mod secret.
I pray that you will be blessed in every way as you move on!
Jessica; February 24, 2009 7:04 AM
butterflygirl said...: Did anyone see the comments on Anna's post with the picture of Candy's new homestead? LOL; February 24, 2009 7:14 AM
Amanda #1 said...: What if Candy was right, and she got raptured and we're all left behind?

Diet Coke on computer. (And don't anyone tell me that 7:20 is too early for pop.); February 24, 2009 7:21 AM
Helen said...: In a word: puke

Looks like this blog is going doooowwwnnnn....

yay!; February 24, 2009 7:28 AM
another one said...: Tia--

Blessings to you as you start a new chapter in your life. Like Milehi said--please be our crazy auntie and come back to visit once in a while.; February 24, 2009 7:33 AM
Rachel said...: Aww Helen, we don't think just because you are here that we are doing down. you add.. so much.... at times.. somewhat...; February 24, 2009 7:34 AM
another one said...: Oh, and yesterday when I mentioned remembering Candy talking about looking at property, it was on Meez that she did that, not on her blob. Sorry for misremembering that.

I don't think they are involved in a 'back to the land' type community, but one of the 'anti-government/millenlialist' communities. Those are the ones which are proliferating in that part of the country.; February 24, 2009 7:35 AM
Clare said...: Yes Tia!
I totally echo what SIL Anne and Jessica said. You have a knack of being able to articulate what it is that is 'off'. I also really have admired your personal honesty, which you have managed to combine with a true spirit of respectful debate here.
Although the worldview of many commenters here has been so different from yours, you have been able to handle that with no hint of sneer or condecension.
You have handled some hot issues here with dignity and probably considerable restraint.
These are some of the qualities that have won you the respect and admiration of many of us at CIAL Meadows.
I hope it isn't the last we hear of you.
This is for you.; February 24, 2009 7:52 AM
Suzanne said...: Helen said...
In a word: puke

Looks like this blog is going doooowwwnnnn....

yay!

Oh Dear Helen you came on board with such a sweet Christian spirit--what has happened? Nice Christian ladies don't talk like this do they?; February 24, 2009 8:04 AM
Rachel said...: Poor Helen, Candy-cane is gone and she has no more role model to follow.. she is lost in the internet sea and doesn't know what to do with all her free time!

let us pray for her.; February 24, 2009 8:14 AM
Mrs. D said...: I miss Candy's blog links. Anyone have them? I liked some of them.; February 24, 2009 8:17 AM
Helen said...: I love it! Only 44 comments!; February 24, 2009 8:23 AM
Rosamundi said...: I love it! Only 44 comments!

It's only 8:30 over in the States, it's early yet.; February 24, 2009 8:30 AM
Amanda #1 said...: Um, b/c it's 8:30 in the morning. We're always slow to start.; February 24, 2009 8:31 AM
Amanda #1 said...: CM, I think we have a date next October.; February 24, 2009 8:33 AM
patrice said...: Many of us are sad to see HeathenFan leave this blog but really Helen I think you insult Greek by implying that this blog will go down now.; February 24, 2009 8:33 AM
Amanda #1 said...: I was gone a good chunk of the weekend, so I may have missed the discussion, but have we talked about what we're giving up for lent? (If anything.)

Ryan and I are together giving up eating out. I'd still like to give up something individually, but I'm not sure what. I've given up pop in the past, but it's really not that hard; I just substitute something else. I'd like to come up with something a little more difficult.; February 24, 2009 8:36 AM
Helen said...: Nahhh.....I've seen you ladies have over 100 comments from a post that was posted the night before.

You don't have the 'candy glue' to hold your ugly little souls together now.; February 24, 2009 8:37 AM
Clare said...: "I love it! Only 44 comments!"
'Only'? LOL!

Has it been horrid for you to visit us Sybil dear?
Have we made you grind your teeth?
Have we been pure torture for you?
Because if we were, that would be, y'know, awful.

Tee hee.; February 24, 2009 8:40 AM
Rachel said...: Helen,

It could also be that we DO have lives and are just.. well.. living them??? Unlike yourself, who no longer has a hang out on Candy's blog so she can tell you what to do that day.. you come here.. and sit and wait. Hang around.. it gets better.; February 24, 2009 8:41 AM
Amanda #1 said...: You don't have the 'candy glue' to hold your ugly little souls together now.

Oh, but we have the Fake Friend/Drunken Hen glue!; February 24, 2009 8:42 AM
Debbie said...: Something keeps you glued here Helen.; February 24, 2009 8:42 AM
Rosamundi said...: You don't have the 'candy glue' to hold your ugly little souls together now.

Whilst this blog is called Candy is a Liar, Candy ceased to be my main reason for coming here quite some time ago. The "fake friends" I've made here are what keeps me coming back. Commenting volume may go down a little, but I'd venture to suggest that Candy is incidental or irrelevant to at least half of the conversations we have.; February 24, 2009 8:43 AM
patrice said...: Amanda - I give up Dunkin Donuts coffee every Lent - it is very difficult for me. We do the rice bowl with the kids and collect the money we would have spent on treats (like the coffee for me, candy etc for them) It adds up quickly. But to be honest I was cutting back on my coffee habit more for economic reasons already.

We try to focus on the "prayer, fasting and alms" aspect of Lent. I'm going to try to do some of the bible study/cathecism that Milehi posted about ages ago for the prayer aspect. Volunteer once a week with my girls at our parish food pantry re-stocking the shelves etc. and maybe, I suppose giving up my pinot grigio - even though I shudder at the thought!!; February 24, 2009 8:44 AM
Rachel said...: Amanda,

I think that is a good Lenten sacrifice! But please, do not make Sweet Ryan at that awful salmon loaf!!

I usually increase my prayer during Lent. Like you said, when I give up something I likely replace it with another something. not much of a sacrifice.; February 24, 2009 8:44 AM
Clare said...: "You don't have the 'candy glue' to hold your ugly little souls together now."

I know. Your Christian witness is a shining light and it puts us to shame.

Oh wait. No. What I mean is, your presence here provides a perfect illustration of where Candythink takes you.
Thank you, you are a wonderful example.; February 24, 2009 8:46 AM
Amanda #1 said...: I'm thinking about giving up eating between meals. But that's at least partially b/c it would help my weight-loss efforts, so I'm not sure if that really counts as a Lenten sacrifice, kwim?

Mom always told me to DO something (like in grade school, I was nice to this girl that I absolutely deplored), but I can't even think of anything from that angle, either. Maybe a rosary a day or something?; February 24, 2009 8:47 AM
Clare said...: Yes 'Helen'. What's the glue that keeps you here?
Bread making tips? lenten resolutions?; February 24, 2009 8:50 AM
Helen said...: Candy was a great inspiration to me. I am not ashamed to admit that. She is a true sister in Christ striving to do her best every day to let her light shine.

How many of you can truly say that? Does your light shine in a positive way?

Not that I can see.; February 24, 2009 8:50 AM
Amanda #1 said...: Oh, and I want to brag today:

I am wearing a skirt I made before I had kids. My ass is bigger than it was; I have to shimmy to get it on. BUT, I can wear it again. It's polka-dot and was always one of my favorites. I'm elated!; February 24, 2009 8:52 AM
Debbie said...: This lenton season I'm going to try to think more of Christ and less of myself. I fuss and fret over the people that I love. In a way I can't explain, that is selfish. I hope to learn to pray for them and then cast my care on Him. And then not pick up that heavy ball after Lent!; February 24, 2009 8:53 AM
Clare said...: "Candy was a great inspiration to me."

I can see that. That's why we believe that her brand of 'inspiration' is dangerous.
Again, thank you for providing a living example of 'living for Christ' Candy style.
We couldn't have put it better ourselves.; February 24, 2009 8:54 AM
Mrs. D said...: Helen said...
Nahhh.....I've seen you ladies have over 100 comments from a post that was posted the night before.

You don't have the 'candy glue' to hold your ugly little souls together now.
So you've been comming here for quite a while? Your reasoning for that?

Helen said...
Candy was a great inspiration to me. I am not ashamed to admit that. She is a true sister in Christ striving to do her best every day to let her light shine.

How many of you can truly say that? Does your light shine in a positive way?

Not that I can see.

Well, if that was HER best I'm glad I don't live in that house. And if she were a real inspiration to you...WHAT WERE YOU DOING HERE?? I'm inclined to think that was your site you posted yesterday. If it was it just goes the phoniness in a lot of blogs. if it really wasn't I don't need to waste time there as it's done NOTHING for YOU.; February 24, 2009 8:57 AM
Amanda #1 said...: Oh! I know what i was going to DO for Lent! I'm going to go to Confession every week!

Okay, still need a sacrifice, but that's a good "do".; February 24, 2009 8:57 AM
Helen said...: I have been reading here since the last of January. Several of Candy's readers that I correspond with had told me about this site. I wanted to see for myself. Didn't come back until Candy closes her site. A couple of people had said that Candy's sister in law was posting bunches of junk over here.

So I came and read for myself. Very ugly it was.; February 24, 2009 9:04 AM
Rachel said...: Amanda, good for you! I am still struggling in that area.

I think a Rosary a day is wonderful! I did it for Lent one year and continued with saying one every Sunday before mass - I had to get there early to do it! I slipped somewhere.. so maybe I'll restart that again.; February 24, 2009 9:04 AM
Rachel said...: Yes, helen! I agree.. it is very ugly that Candy is tearing that family apart. That she steps on her own husbands feet and answers emails on her own. It's very sad that she thinks she is acting in a Christian manner when she behaves that way instead of trying to mend the bridges between siblings and in laws. It is very sad that she uses her children as a pawn against the family.

We all agree with you on that!; February 24, 2009 9:06 AM
Debbie said...: Did you notice that most of the conversation was not about SIL Anne's emails and that after the initial reactions, most of us talked about other things?; February 24, 2009 9:07 AM
Debbie said...: If it is so ugly here, why are you still here?; February 24, 2009 9:08 AM
Saved Sinner said...: This post has been removed by the author.; February 24, 2009 9:16 AM
Debbie said...: Good reminder Saved Sinner!; February 24, 2009 9:17 AM
~M said...: Helen be gone before someone drops a house on you too...; February 24, 2009 9:26 AM
Mrs Flam said...: Ace Posted a link to an excellent article today. I highly reccomend it. I am still reading , and I think it is worth it.

Just to note.

as for the algae eater , I agree , it is the one eating everything that comes near it. I cant convince my husband. We are looking ad a nice house in the county though.

and it has lots of room , so i can bring out my own tanks again. Just for my googley eyed buddies.; February 24, 2009 9:27 AM
Suzanne said...: Yes, ignore the troll. If the troll is an example of a Christian lady that takes care of her home and family all day ,but yet can't stop reading here...well, 'nuff said.; February 24, 2009 9:28 AM
~M said...: I know... not terribly witty, but my 4 year old just came running through the house yelling "It's a twista, It's a twista" because it is so windy here.; February 24, 2009 9:28 AM
Amanda #1 said...: Okay, where is Ace's blog?; February 24, 2009 9:29 AM
Mrs Flam said...: oh , on that article dont forget that she warns it should be read with an eye for descernment I too must agree strongly with that.; February 24, 2009 9:29 AM
Mrs Flam said...: Joy and Grace on the sidebar; February 24, 2009 9:30 AM
butterflygirl said...: Amanda, you have said before how much you like to shop and spend. How about no shopping unless it is a necessity during lent? Just a suggestion. LOL; February 24, 2009 9:31 AM
Amanda #1 said...: How about no shopping unless it is a necessity during lent?

Ack. That's a good one.

I will let you know later whether I love or hate you for that suggestion, LOL.; February 24, 2009 9:34 AM
patrice said...: This post has been removed by the author.; February 24, 2009 9:48 AM
patrice said...: To Greek a suggestion for a new post "The Three (or more) Faces of Eve".

Does anyone remember that movie with Joanne Woodward?; February 24, 2009 9:50 AM
Mrs Flam said...: Btw I think i get jesus now. Feels Funny , I'm not exactly sure how to feel about that now.; February 24, 2009 9:56 AM
Debbie said...: Mrs Flam, I will pray for you. That your understanding leads you to embracing Christ and letting Him embrace you.
Not in the way I think it should be either. You don't sound like a woman that is going to swallow the experience of others and try to make it your own. Peace be with you in your journey.; February 24, 2009 10:14 AM
Saved Sinner said...: This post has been removed by the author.; February 24, 2009 10:20 AM
Suzanne said...: Mrs. Flam, that is truly wonderful! Can I make a suggestion? Read about the life of Christ from the Bible, doesn't matter what version! Actually an NIV or NASB is quite good. I think to understand Him is to get to know him personally. The best in your search and if you have any questions just holler. I promise not to cram anything down your throat or thump you over the head with a KJV Bible:-); February 24, 2009 10:22 AM
Debbie said...: Read about the life of Christ from the Bible.....

Best advice ever!; February 24, 2009 10:25 AM
Helen said...: I expected nothing less than to be treated hostile. I have to agree with the other ladies, you are very cruel and very mean.; February 24, 2009 10:31 AM
patrice said...: Where's Milehi? Saw this on the Houston Chronicle web site.

Houston taxpayers could start footing the bill to help first-time homebuyers pay off debts and improve their credit scores, under a proposal before City Council this week.

The “Credit Score Enhancement Program” will give up to $3,000 in grants to individuals who are trying to qualify for mortgages through the city’s homebuyers assistance program. City officials say some applicants fall short of eligibility by only 10 or 20 points on their credit scores, and paying off some debt balances can quickly improve their numbers.

Think I might move!; February 24, 2009 10:31 AM
Mrs Flam said...: Thank you all , I'ts a new thing. I'm understanding a bit more each day.

I do appreciate all you ladies not being judgemental and hateful to me.

For so long I wanted to interact and learn and overhear what people said about jesus , but was ignored and pushed away. *The great soda drinker* asked me why I was even here , and I thought on it hard. Why was I here ?

It wasn't about candy sometimes , it was about not being rejected.

It was that I was welcomed with open arms , without judgement and harsh critisisim.

I appreciate all of you , for letting float and learn and exsist alongside you.; February 24, 2009 10:34 AM
patrice said...: Mrs. Flam - I second Debbie and wish you well in your spiritual journey.

My daughter struggles in math but she works hard, doesn't give up and eventually gets it. Her teachers have always said that the difficulty, discouragement, frustration etc. is always worst just before you come to understand a concept.

I know math/Jesus is a poor comparison but I hope you get my drift.; February 24, 2009 10:35 AM
Mrs Flam said...: Thank You Helen For Asking why I was here. I appreciate our presence , and your question.; February 24, 2009 10:37 AM
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Helen said...: Hi Mrs. Flam - I love your site. You are such a sweetie! I am happy to hear about you gaining more understanding of Jesus. Keep studying!

Are you feeling better? I know you have some health issues. (I don't usually leave comments on your site - on anybody's really - needless to say I am hopping off here!); February 24, 2009 10:41 AM
butterflygirl said...: Helen, You are being mean and cruel to us. Do you expect that we would sit here and take it. If you want to particapte here, then do so. We welcome everyone here. But, don't think we are going to have hate thrown at us and not respond.; February 24, 2009 10:41 AM
Helen said...: hate? I don't think so....

just commented on what i saw; February 24, 2009 10:43 AM
~M said...: Mrs. Flam, I have very much enjoyed reading about your spirtual journey. It has made me take a deeper look at my own faith and remind myself that I too need to continue to grow in my faith.; February 24, 2009 10:44 AM
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Amanda #1 said...: Mrs. Flam, can I be nosy and ask what you mean when you say you "get Jesus"? Of course, feel free to tell me to bug-off, I'm just curious.

Either way, I'm happy that faith journey is moving along. I think Jesus would far rather that you come to him by way of many detours, and on your own terms, but in a genuine way, as opposed to mumbling the Sinner's Prayer because some woman on the internet scared the crap out of you.

I guess I'm trying to say that it's better to come to Jesus out of true understanding than out of fear.; February 24, 2009 10:45 AM
Seraphima said...: Mrs. Flam I will pray for you as you go on your spiritual journey. Christ is the most wonderful, loving and caring person you will ever know. I agree, read the Gospels. My vote is the Gospel of John and don't discount the KJV I prefer the tone in the Gospels in the KJV as well as the pretty language. You can read it online for free, in case you don't want to buy several different versions. Or maybe you can find a NIV/KJV paralell Bible.

God bless you!; February 24, 2009 10:48 AM
Amanda #1 said...: Or maybe you can find a NIV/KJV paralell Bible.

I like that idea. I like the sound of the KJV, but I have a hard time understanding it, at least the first time through. From my experience, I'd suggest reading it first in the NIV (or some other easy-to-read translation) and then read it again in the KJV (if you want, of course).; February 24, 2009 10:49 AM
Seraphima said...: I started my pre-lenten cleaning today and finally packed up the litter box. Louis isn't coming home and we have to accept that and move on. It was hard though.; February 24, 2009 10:50 AM
butterflygirl said...: Mrs. Flam, congrats on your journey. Keep on searching!

Helen, I personally have nothing against you. Not sure what I have done to offend you.

And a generally probably stupid question foanyone. Even Helen. I made a huge pot of Milehimam's lentil soup, which is awesome! But I have ALOT leftover. Can you freeze lentil soup?; February 24, 2009 10:52 AM
Helen said...: Saved Sinner - I love your blog. You are very Christ like and sweet person. I didn't mean to direct anything to you.

I was/am upset that Candy has been run off the internet by people who are very unkind and not very ethical (sp?). I know Candy did some stuff to make people mad, but i have to ask the people here: why keep going back to her blog if it made you mad? Why not just leave it alone. There are plenty of other blogs that are just as anti-catholic.

There are people that actually enjoyed her blog and day to day stuff. Didn't always agree with everything but I was choosing to be there and to act respectful - just like if I was at her house. Instead I come over here and people are calling me names because I am one of her regular readers. I saw stuff like minion, candy head, now is that the right way to be? People had it out for Candy and now they should be happy - she's gone. And I admit I would love to see this blog go down just because you took away something that me and others actually enjoyed.; February 24, 2009 10:52 AM
Helen said...: I freeze lentil soup alot - it freezes really good; February 24, 2009 10:53 AM
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Amanda #1 said...: Yup, I freeze lentil soup all the time. I've even re-frozen it with good results.; February 24, 2009 10:56 AM
butterflygirl said...: Thanks Helen. Felt stupid asking but I am not that experienced with beans yet. Am working on it.

As for being angry about Candy leaving the internet. I don't think it is because of us, but that is my opinion. Have you ever considered the harm that she has caused some women, me included. You have the right to be angry. But we have the right to band together and dispute what she put out there. Know what I mean? I am gald I found my way here. And I have learned ALOT from the people here about all different things. Just putting in my two cents.; February 24, 2009 10:58 AM
butterflygirl said...: Thanks Amanda too! Thought maybe you were mad at me still cause of my suggestion! LOL; February 24, 2009 11:00 AM
~M said...: Tracy, I am really sorry about you Louis. Losing a pet is so hard. (Hugs); February 24, 2009 11:03 AM
~M said...: ack... should be your Louis.; February 24, 2009 11:04 AM
Milehimama said...: I doubt that she has actually planned her way back into the blogosphere yet, but she will be back.

I agree. She's "redone", deleted, reposted, and switched URLs more than once.

Her KTH domain is still up and directing traffic to her blogspot. Her blogspot is still around, not shut down or deleted.; February 24, 2009 11:04 AM
Amanda #1 said...: but i have to ask the people here: why keep going back to her blog if it made you mad? Why not just leave it alone. There are plenty of other blogs that are just as anti-catholic.

I guess I fail to understand your rhetoric. You're essentially saying two wrongs make a right: b/c other people are equally anti-Catholic, that means we should have just accepted Candy's hate-mongering.

Yes, Jack Chick is equally hateful, but you'd basically have to be actively looking for anti-Catholic stuff to find him. Candy had a large following of average, every day women who hung on her every word, and led them to believe that the Catholic church was an evil cult. She did not just hate the Catholic church, she deliberately and knowingly spread lies about the church and its beliefs. (And frankly, what I fail to understand about the whole thing is the lies. If the Catholic church is truly an evil cult, shouldn't it be easy enough to prove without making up stuff?)

I come over here and people are calling me names because I am one of her regular readers. I saw stuff like minion, candy head, now is that the right way to be?

Perhaps it's not the right way. However, neither is deliberating spreading lies about other religions. Or modifying comments. Or twisting the words of others to fit your own agenda. No, two wrongs do not make a right. But what I fail to understand is how we are evil, hate-filled people to have finally stood up to her, but somehow, what Candy did on a regular basis was a-okay.

People had it out for Candy and now they should be happy - she's gone.

I am happy she's gone. But I see no reason for us to allow the friendships we have forged here to fall by the wayside. Candy may have brought us together, but she is not what has kept us together. If you actually bothered to follow along with the comments here for even one day, you would see that we talk about Candy very little. We talk about kids and cooking and husbands and pets and abortion and God. Yes, Candy often served as a jumping off point for these discussions, but she has never been our sole or even primary focus.; February 24, 2009 11:06 AM
Clare said...: Oh for goodness sake. Please. Helen is Grace is Kenzie is Witters etc etc. IE Sybil!
This is what she does. The nice/nasty routine. Now she's chatting about lentil soup. She was puking a few comments back.
Please. We've been here before. She's toying with you.
Please stop being glad when she's nice.
I'm not being cynical. Just observant.
We've been round this bend so many times I even recognise the cracks in the pavement.
Gahhh!; February 24, 2009 11:10 AM
~M said...: I could not agree with you more Clare.; February 24, 2009 11:11 AM
Milehimama said...: so I'm not sure if that really counts as a Lenten sacrifice, kwim

The point of "giving something up" is to draw you closer to Christ as you prepare for His resurrection.

So, what will do that? Will separating yourself from mindless eating do that (give up snacks). Will more time for reflection do that? Give up watching American Idol. Will a calmer spirit do that? Give up yelling.

It's different for each person. The point is to replace someTHING in your life with HIM. KWIM?

PS - on "fast days" you're only supposed to eat two snacks and a meal, anyway! The days of fasting are Ash Wednesday (tomorrow) and Good Friday.; February 24, 2009 11:12 AM
Seraphima said...: i have to ask the people here: why keep going back to her blog if it made you mad? Why not just leave it alone. There are plenty of other blogs that are just as anti-catholic.

It wasn't so much about Candy's blog making me personally mad - there were times when I wanted to smack her upside the head don't get me wrong, but it was about the damage she was doing and the lies she was telling and the harm she was causing.

Candy started out when there was a big call for a certain kind of Christian homemaker blog. She was fairly normal at first posting about her life in a truthful manner. Then, well quite frankly she had some sort of mental break.

Delusions of grandeur, the excessive need and grab for control. She set herself up as the one, true, Christian example and if you were not like her you were unsaved, poorly saved or simply a bum.

She lied, manipulated people and gave out dangerous information on topics she should have never spoken on.

She was hurtful and posted so many lies and falsehoods that something had to be done. I am quite positive that there are more just as dangerous bloggers out there, but I don't know of any myself. PPW is a hate filled woman, but her blog is not a venue to exploit people, nor does she pass out dangerous misinformation that could result in sickness or even death like Candy did.

Candy claimed to have the cure for Down's Syndrome for crying out loud, then when we called her on it here and on her blog she edited it without one word of retraction or disclaimer about what she had posted. That is dangerous. That is being a liar.

As far as her anti-Catholicism goes, it was just one more facet of her hateful nature being manifested with poorly researched half truths and out right lies. She could have posted official Catholic statements and argued them without getting ugly about it or resorting to Jack Chick or JIL/JIS copy and pastes.

People had it out for Candy and now they should be happy - she's gone.
I am happy. Very, very happy. I feel a sense of relief.

And I admit I would love to see this blog go down just because you took away something that me and others actually enjoyed.

Helen, there are a ton of other great, inspiring blogs out there for you to enjoy. I also see that you are angry and blame us. While I would love to be able to take credit for Candy's departure, I don't think we really can. I honestly believe that she started losing many of her followers when she in early 2008, I believe posted how it was unchristian and ment that you were quite possibly unsaved if you accepted government assistance. It sort of spiraled from there with her various versions of her testimony culminating with her story of God telling her and Erik to live together without being married.

As for your comments on the blog being slow today. It's not the first time and many of us are grieving the loss of Tia. I know I was blue yesterday to see her go. I also know that I'm not the only one. Truth is that we are the hens and we will gather in CIAL Meadows to chit chat as we always have.; February 24, 2009 11:15 AM
~M said...: C was back on meez today. I dont think it will be long before she is back.; February 24, 2009 11:16 AM
Milehimama said...: I was/am upset that Candy has been run off the internet

Well, Candy says she left to homestead. Do you think she's lying?; February 24, 2009 11:16 AM
Debbie said...: I wish one of the hens were here to help me pin the quilt I'm working on!
I can't find the C-clamps in the garage!!!!; February 24, 2009 11:18 AM
butterflygirl said...: Ah Milehimama, excellent point!; February 24, 2009 11:20 AM
Seraphima said...: Amanda, I agree with Milehi. I cannot do the strict Orthodox lenten fasting. I am making changes to all of our diets for lent and hopefully beyond, but the point is to focus more on Christ and less on us. To exercise the virtues and discipline ourselves.; February 24, 2009 11:20 AM
Helen said...: Milehimama said...
I was/am upset that Candy has been run off the internet

Well, Candy says she left to homestead. Do you think she's lying?

I don't know...really don't. Maybe they had money saved up - really doesn't matter to me.

Amanda - I understand - but if something hurts, don't go back.

Everyone assumes I am a Baptist like Candy. I am Catholic. Happy Shrove Tuesday everybody.; February 24, 2009 11:24 AM
butterflygirl said...: Milehimama, I made the lentil soup. It is awesome! Except I changed it up a little. I put lots of garlic in it and also potatoes. And I used diced tomatoes. And I didn't have cumin so I used ground red pepper. When I got to the vinegar part I was really leary! But it gives it some great flavor! Wow, I just gave you a review like they do at Allrecipes.com! LMAO!; February 24, 2009 11:25 AM
Amanda #1 said...: Amanda - I understand - but if something hurts, don't go back.

So....no snark intended....but why do you keep coming back here?

Renee--if you've got potatoes in the soup, it's not going to freeze well. Potatoes turn to mush upon freezing.; February 24, 2009 11:27 AM
butterflygirl said...: Amanda, it's ok. I have been picking the potatoes out of it all morning! LOL! I love potatoes! When they are all gone then I will divide it up and freeze it!; February 24, 2009 11:31 AM
~M said...: Oy. Briar has his final wrestling match today. It is the big Finals Tournement. We will leave the house today at 1:45 and wont be home till after midnight. Why they would schedule something like this for 13 and 14 year olds, in the middle of the week, is beyond me.

Any ways feel free to send some Drunken Hen Luck his way.; February 24, 2009 11:36 AM
Debbie said...: The lentil soup recipe was great wasn't it?

For once we ate the leftovers instead of chucking them.

I hate wasting food.; February 24, 2009 11:36 AM
Debbie said...: Thanks Milehi.; February 24, 2009 11:37 AM
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Helen said...: Amanda #1 said...
Amanda - I understand - but if something hurts, don't go back.

So....no snark intended....but why do you keep coming back here?

oh you are absolutely right - I am on my way out. People asked me questions - so I responded. Also, I didn't want Mrs. Fram or Saved Sinner to think I was mad at them.

I have no intention of staying on here - it makes me feel bad.; February 24, 2009 12:08 PM
Helen said...: that must have been back before I was reading her Saved. I started reading Candy around the last of 2007. I know it was around Christmas time because I was trying to get better organized - it was my 2nd 'married' Christmas and the first one was not organized - at all!; February 24, 2009 12:10 PM
luz said...: Was anyone else's first thought on seeing Candy's farewell message to check the news in Oklahoma for murder/suicides?

I know it's morbid, but that was seriously my first thought. I really feel for Anne. It must be terrible to always be worrying about the children like that.; February 24, 2009 12:11 PM
Clare said...: Susan, you made some excellent points there. I had forgotten about her 'minions' post.

""Please stop being glad when she's nice."
Sorry I can't help it - I feel like I ought to give people a second chance.
"

I agree, but this person has had considerably more chances than that.
It seems to me that she is having fun with you. 'Sybil' is playing a manipulative game and it's frustrating to watch her reel people in for another bit of sport.
Excruciating actually.; February 24, 2009 12:12 PM
synchroswimr said...: I was/am upset that Candy has been run off the internet by people who are very unkind and not very ethical (sp?).
As others have asked, she said that she left because they were homesteading, not because of us. You indicated in a reply that you don't know if it was homesteading or because of us, so... you have doubts about her honesty as well?

I know Candy did some stuff to make people mad, but i have to ask the people here: why keep going back to her blog if it made you mad? Why not just leave it alone.
Because, as others said, her advice has been dangerous in the past. I worry about young women and new mothers taking her advice at her word and getting hurt. For me, in particular, her denial of depression being real. In my life, my mother's denial of depression caused severe damage, and if I had been looking to Candy as a type of mentor, as I think many have, that would have hurt me further.

There are plenty of other blogs that are just as anti-catholic.
Yeah, but you have to be looking for that, as Amanda said

There are people that actually enjoyed her blog and day to day stuff.
I did for a while, too. She helped me with some aspects of my house keeping. It was mostly her matter-of-fact statements about things that she knows nothing about. She thought she knew it all about so many different things and she was so arrogant about them, that it would be easy to just be taken in to assume that what she says is the truth. For example, treating bites from poisonous spiders with hot water?!? That could kill a person.

Didn't always agree with everything but I was choosing to be there and to act respectful - just like if I was at her house. Instead I come over here and people are calling me names because I am one of her regular readers. I saw stuff like minion, candy head, now is that the right way to be?
And I (and most of us) were respectful at Candy's blog. Then we came "home" and vented our frustrations. The right way to be? Maybe not. But we never pretended to be perfect or without fault.

People had it out for Candy and now they should be happy - she's gone. And I admit I would love to see this blog go down just because you took away something that me and others actually enjoyed.
I am somewhat relieved that she is gone. I was fairly shocked yesterday that she left, but today I think it will be good. I hope her family is well and her children are healthy and happy. If she is off homesteading and happy, good for her. I would actually have enjoyed reading some of her posts about that.

As for us taking it away from you, if you think we did, and Candy says she left to go homestead, then you suspect she is lying as well.

We would have been just as happy if she had changed her tone and stopped being such a know-it-all bash everything that isn't like me type person.; February 24, 2009 12:13 PM
synchroswimr said...: With that, I am off to go exercise for a bit (sun shining so I am of for a bike ride) and then a bit of data recovery on a hard drive that failed while I work on my thesis and care for my sick husband. I will pop on this evening, but hopefully not before then.

Have a wonderful day, everybody!; February 24, 2009 12:15 PM
Helen said...: Clare - are you talking about me being a Sybil? You don't even know me - and I don't know you. Why would you say something like that?; February 24, 2009 12:16 PM
kritterc said...: I said it yesterday and I will say it today. I am glad Candy is gone and I admit to calling her followers minions. She may have started out to be sincere, I don't really know, but I found her while doing some research for a Catholic Bible study. What I found was a blog site that was spouting out right lies about my church. Why wouldn't I be offended and want to fight back?

As I studied Candy and her writings, I began to see how she was also misleading sincere, young mothers and wives with her ideas about homemaking and motherhood. She is dangerous. She makes vulnerable women feel bad about themselves and that, in my opinion, is not Christian-like at all.

And Helen - you know nothing about me or my walk with the Lord. In fact, you know nothing about any of us here. Not really. Quit trying to pretend that you do.; February 24, 2009 12:18 PM
Milehimama said...: Milehimama, I made the lentil soup. It is awesome! Except I changed it up a little. I put lots of garlic in it and also potatoes. And I used diced tomatoes. And I didn't have cumin so I used ground red pepper. When I got to the vinegar part I was really leary! But it gives it some great flavor! Wow, I just gave you a review like they do at Allrecipes.com! LMAO!

Glad you liked it! I almost always use canned tomatoes unless it's a salad or taco topping or something, too.

I KNOW, the vinegar sounds nasty but it's so good!

I love recipes that can be made into many different things - I've made this with garbanzos and white beans, and I've added rice or barley too.; February 24, 2009 12:25 PM
Clare said...: Also, please note that none of Sybils characters have blogs.
She likes to furnish us with some personal details to flesh out the characters though.
'Grace' was expecting no.6, 'Helen' is newly married, can't remember 'Kenzies' details, but she loved riding round with hubby looking at the christmas lights.
And remeber 'Catholics are evil'? she was quite the party person.
Sybil ENJOYS playing with different characters. If newly wed 'Helen' was a regular reader of Candys I think she'd have commented there . Funny how her blogger profile was only set up in Feb 2009.
She's another invention of Sybil.; February 24, 2009 12:25 PM
Maggii said...: I don't know if any of you have seen this blog..but I just found it and I'm really liking it...she is a good example of Christian Motherhood IMO

http://cultivatinghome.blogspot.com/; February 24, 2009 12:28 PM
Milehimama said...: Helen, "Sybil" is an inside joke here. There is a certain commenter who comes through and changes her name every two weeks or so. So now we just call her "Sybil" as shorthand for Grace/WittenbergWarrior/Kenzie/Thorn/HellSpawn or whatever new name she's come up with.

When commenters come on us out of the blue with a brand new profile, we get suspicious, esp. if they are defending Candy but we've never seen them comment on KTH before.; February 24, 2009 12:29 PM
Milehimama said...: I don't understand why someone would head to Candy's for advice on an organized holiday?

That's never been her thing, at all.; February 24, 2009 12:30 PM
Maggii said...: Clare - are you talking about me being a Sybil? You don't even know me - and I don't know you. Why would you say something like that?

***
probably for the same reason you've been saying the stuff you have...let's see off the top of my head..we ALL have "ugly souls"...among other rude things you've attributed to ALL of us....yet we are the hatemongers?; February 24, 2009 12:31 PM
Clare said...: Milehi
'Helen' knows who Sybil is.
Oh yes she does.; February 24, 2009 12:32 PM
Helen said...: THanks Milehimama.

not that it is anyone's business but i set up my blogger account so i could comment on blogger blog i had started reading. She was going to hold Bible study and that's the only way you could participate.

And i didn't comment on Candy's site very much at alll...but i don't anyone else's either.

I don't want a blog.; February 24, 2009 12:37 PM
Seraphima said...: Yeah, well TBH Helen, I don't trust or believe that you aren't our resident troll. You're just the newest incarnation of an old PITA. Even if you aren't there is nothing you can say or do to prove otherwise.; February 24, 2009 12:41 PM
Helen said...: okay...well... the only pita i know about is the bread so you lost me in that comment and with the tbh.

anyway i am leaving. didn't mean to stay this long; February 24, 2009 12:43 PM
Debbie said...: All this seems familiar. Mean, nice, I am innocent of any form of malice, unlike you meanies here. some of you are sweet. Mean again, nice again.
Whatever.
I didn't post here for a few days and Clare wondered if I was a Grace alter-ego. Given the craziness at that time, I could see why she would wonder that. I can also see why she feels Grace/WW/Thorn/Whoever could be the same person.
If Helen suggests that I go take a thorazine or haladol, hmmm?; February 24, 2009 12:51 PM
Suzanne said...: I'm not being cynical. Just observant.
We've been round this bend so many times I even recognise the cracks in the pavement.
Gahhh!

I couldn't agree with you more Clare, why are we still dialoging with the troll????; February 24, 2009 12:52 PM
Maggii said...: As far as the Minions...not ALL of Candy's commenters were comsidered 'minions" ..if the shoe doesn't fit....don't try to wear it.; February 24, 2009 12:57 PM
Debbie said...: Clare, I respect your input here and appreciate what you have to say.
I was only using the alter-ego thing as an example. If I would have gone off in a huff I would have missed a lot here.
Errands to run. Catch ya'll later.; February 24, 2009 1:10 PM
Clare said...: "I didn't post here for a few days and Clare wondered if I was a Grace alter-ego."

Debbie, I'd forgotten about that. You were very new here and you and Grace had a provocative exchange re Mary etc. Then there was a sudden change of tone, she apologised and you were pals, and then you dropped off CIAL.
Given Graces earlier trick of creating a foil with whom to parry ( WW and Kenzie both being the same person) I did wonder.

I'm not seeing Sybil round every corner however. But it is quite obvious to me that Helen is not a new troll here.; February 24, 2009 1:16 PM
Mrs Flam said...: Ack ANyone Here have any good Octopus recipies ( I know odd , but I had to ask ) , I am having some in my soup and am thinking of adding it in more often but I'm not exactly sure how many ways there are to fix octopus ...

*make fun if you wish , i know my husband has*; February 24, 2009 1:26 PM
Milehimama said...: My husband makes tako with his, it's like octopus ceviche.

It gets rubbery if cooked too long!; February 24, 2009 1:27 PM
Mrs. D said...: Didn't always agree with everything but I was choosing to be there and to act respectful - just like if I was at her house.

Soooooo, she made you feel at home reading her blog? I can see that. How would you feel if you were visiting her home and she up and asked you to leave with no warning at all? Right in the middle of a meal at that (bookshelf series)? Isn't that what she did? And STILL you defend her? I'm not trying to be mean I am trying to help you see a point. Candy was a fake.; February 24, 2009 1:28 PM
Milehimama said...: And don't forget her "day in the life of the kids" series.

Or the promised brochure that so many readers really wanted to they could print it out.

Or the KTH club that simply stopped one day - no reason or explanation.

Or KTH TV, for that matter.; February 24, 2009 1:31 PM
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Mrs Flam said...: Hm.. I hadn't thought about that ,ceviche is nurmmy ... Have to look into it , we do a lot of wonton around here..octopus dumpling !!

I have made fried rings , and I use lots of baby octipi in my soup...

I found a great sale on octopi at the asian restraunt supply store (which not supriseingly is next to the best chinese in town); February 24, 2009 1:33 PM
Milehimama said...: When Vallie was born, a lady from my church came over to bring a casserole dinner. She was a friend, but not a good friend, KWIM?

Husband was making octopus in the kitchen and offered her some. Really, we don't eat raw tentacles everyday! We're normal people! LOL!

She also brought lunch for the other kids, and several lunchables for lunches later in the week - a GREAT "baby gift" for someone with little kids at home!; February 24, 2009 1:33 PM
Mrs Flam said...: She did have a load of projects going ...for them to all fall off the planet at once.; February 24, 2009 1:34 PM
Milehimama said...: He makes tako by marinating in sesame oil and soy sauce, maybe a little green onion.

"Tako" is the Hawaiian word for it, I think.

Totally random rant here (not on you Mrs Flam, on people who use words wrong in general)

It's octopuses or octopoda, not octopi! LOL!; February 24, 2009 1:36 PM
Mrs Flam said...: LOL , I know what you mean , nothing getting ready to prepare a live octopus when your landlord decides to stop by..I dont think anything can get as humilateing as having to chase down you dinner in front of a stranger ....

LOL

My Landlord , well he always calls before he comes over now; February 24, 2009 1:37 PM
Redneck Homekeeper Extraordinaire said...: "It's octopuses or octopoda, not octopi! LOL!"

Wow...see, I would have said "octopi." And who says you don't learn something every day??; February 24, 2009 1:37 PM
Milehimama said...: Two weeks ago I posted my grocery receipts and list, including baby octopus. I'm surprised no one commented on it (esp. my snarky sisters!); February 24, 2009 1:38 PM
Milehimama said...: Octo + Pus
Octo is the root word for 8.
Pus is a Greek root word for foot.

"-us" in LATIN is pluralized by making it "i" - focus, foci

But "pus" being Greek, doesn't pluralize that way. However, since octopus has been assimilated into English, octopuses is acceptable.

See how much useless crap I know?; February 24, 2009 1:40 PM
Mrs Flam said...: I had never thought of octopada ... I was taught octopi when i was young (but i was also taught about the pattiosaurus , pluto as a planet and Checkosolvakia )

Thank you for educateing me milehi; February 24, 2009 1:40 PM
butterflygirl said...: Wait, what? You get the octopus alive? Are you guys serious???; February 24, 2009 1:41 PM
Milehimama said...: Mrs Flam- it coulda been a chicken or a rabbit and gotten outside! Be thankful for small things!

After husband cleaned a hardhead in our sink - and it WAS STILL ALIVE AND MOVING despite being filleted, I made a rule that any animals to be cooked have to look like meat before they enter the house.

Seriously, the thing was a skeleton with a head and it was still flipping around in the sink! Scarred me for life.; February 24, 2009 1:42 PM
Milehimama said...: I've never gotten a LIVE octopus. Mine are dead.; February 24, 2009 1:42 PM
Redneck Homekeeper Extraordinaire said...: If you want to get down to it, it's all Greek to me. Heh. Seriously though, I love your blog, Milehi. I've desperately needed more meal ideas. Thank you!!; February 24, 2009 1:45 PM
Mrs Flam said...: Things are a lot cheaper if you get them live. I get Chickens live once in awhile , and rabbit is normally dead when we get it.

Oh Thats Horrid Milehi !!That it just kept going after it was cut up. At least it was fresh.

We plan on moving into the country in early april , I've been looking at chickens..then my husband he's all like wow..roaster ..89 Cents each !!I had to exsplain it would take a few months for them to be big enough to eat.; February 24, 2009 1:46 PM
Suzanne said...: Hi Mrs. Flam, being Italian we call our octopus calamari and it is wonderful breaded and deep fried or we often saute it in olive oil with garlic, splash of white wine, maybe capers or even sundried tomato's and serve over pasta or with what we call greens. Greens are sauteed swiss chard or escarole and such. Yum, your making me want some now!; February 24, 2009 1:47 PM
Mrs Flam said...: I Get mine live about half the time , you have to know where to go to find live seafood. It usually means going into a part of town where no one speaks english. AT least thats what I have found.; February 24, 2009 1:48 PM
Suzanne said...: we get live eels at Chrismtas, let them swim in the tub and then they meet they're fate--guillotine style. Deep friend after being cut into rings! NO live octopus though..no,no,no...; February 24, 2009 1:49 PM
butterflygirl said...: ok, mental note. Never accept a dinner invitation from Mrs Flam, Milehimama or Suzeanne! LOL, just kidding!; February 24, 2009 1:50 PM
Mrs Flam said...: We do fried calamri and fried leeks about once a month here. I've Thought abuot mixing Seafood IN the pasta , I hear italian do it all the time.

There is such a huge food world out there , we as a family are always looking to try new flavors.

I havn't tried the cooked escarole , though i saw a good sale on some yesterday. Will Have to try that.; February 24, 2009 1:50 PM
Suzanne said...: Never accept a dinner invitation from Mrs Flam, Milehimama or Suzeanne!

Come on over-you can help with the beheading if you want. I mean all good homesteaders know how to cut heads off things, cut 'em up and cook 'em. I am sure Candy is doing all that right now!; February 24, 2009 1:51 PM
Suzanne said...: Catch you gals later, got to take Karate kids to lessons.; February 24, 2009 1:52 PM
Mrs Flam said...: Wow Eels ? Now thats one I dont think I could deal with ...

But I'd have to try it before i knock it. Ack Butterfly , my husband is a really good cook !!; February 24, 2009 1:53 PM
butterflygirl said...: Ok Mrs. Falm, I'll come over if it isn't opctopus or if I don't have to watch it run around your yard first! LOL; February 24, 2009 1:55 PM
Amanda #1 said...: my husband is a really good cook

I wish my husband were a mediocre cook! Seriously, if he would cook one night a week, I'd die of bliss.; February 24, 2009 1:56 PM
butterflygirl said...: Milehimama,
Do you soak your oatmeal the night before as per NT way? I am trying it out to see if it is good.; February 24, 2009 1:57 PM
Seraphima said...: Ok, does anyone who counts around here not know what TBH or PITA stands for?; February 24, 2009 1:57 PM
butterflygirl said...: Tracy, I forget what TBH means? *ducks and runs*; February 24, 2009 2:01 PM
Amanda #1 said...: I don't know what TBH means. *blush*; February 24, 2009 2:02 PM
Amanda #1 said...: But then, maybe I should have first asked if I count :P; February 24, 2009 2:02 PM
butterflygirl said...: To be honest? Is that right? LOL; February 24, 2009 2:02 PM
Debbie said...: I've eaten squirrel, rabbit and rattlesnake when I was a kid in Texas.
Now buying our meat wrapped in cellophane, already dead works for me just fine.
If I am ever forced to skin a rabbit or squirrel for food again, I'll become a vegetarian.; February 24, 2009 2:03 PM
Mrs Flam said...: I agree with butterfly *sheild with octupatta*
LOL
I get PITA though...; February 24, 2009 2:03 PM
Debbie said...: Isn't pita pocket bread???; February 24, 2009 2:04 PM
Debbie said...: Ok, I'm slow.
Pain in the arse?; February 24, 2009 2:06 PM
butterflygirl said...: Debbie, PITA is pain in the a**; February 24, 2009 2:06 PM
Saved Sinner said...: This post has been removed by the author.; February 24, 2009 2:13 PM
Debbie said...: I feel like a hot shot. Pastor gave me a key to the church so I can get in early to start the soup for our lunch before the Lenten services.
Being trusted is a great feeling.
and I finally found the fabric I was looking for at Hobby Lobby. The Mary Engelbriet quilt just may get finished in this lifetime.
The Irish Chain quilt is on the kitchen table. I have about 6 projects going at once. That way they all get finished close to the same time and there is a lot to show for the efforts!
WIP- Work in progress.; February 24, 2009 2:20 PM
Amanda #1 said...: Growing up we had rabbit, squirrel, and pheasant several times each, always hunted by my dad. I had rattlesnake at a gunshow once.

Ryan thinks that eating squirrel is a redneck thing. Someday, I plan to serve it to him and just not tell him what it is until after the fact. He'll never know.; February 24, 2009 2:20 PM